One Veteran's Voice

19 April 2006

Couple emails and a tirade

This first email was sent to me by a Vietnam Vet,
Brian,

I came across your blog and have been reading the posts within with interest, shame and sadness.
I was an 11B from Vietnam, and so much of what is pointless, foolish and simply stupid I see in your
war I can remember from mine.

What I want to tell you, is that you and your fellow troops are my heroes. My dad was an Iwo Jima
Marine and he feels the same way. I want all the good young men and women there to come home
safe from harm.

I also want the sons of bitches who blew up NYC to get theirs. How that happens is a wholly different
matter.

Keep up the effort of getting the truth as you all see it out where it can be read. It's important work and
those who send others to fight and those who put the bumper stickers on their cars and speak of
support need to know more of what this or any war really is.

Thank you for your service to my country

L. Kirby

This one was sent to me by someone at a Carnegie Mellon University email address
Josh J.

Why did you join the military if you hate it, its leadership, and
apparently have nothing but negativity and vitriol for our country?
There is a reason people like you aren't allowed to be in charge.

Thank you for your service, but you can stop peddling your simplistic
views any time.

- Josh J.


Josh, maybe you should drop out of college and put your money where your mouth is. I did, and now I get to say whatever the fuck I want to about my experiences in Iraq. The only limitation I put on myself is to tell the truth. If you want to listen to simplistic views, turn on CNN and watch a Presidential press conference. My vitriol comes from the bitter experience of fighting someone else's war, from seeing civilians get shot to pieces in the name of democracy, from watching my own government lie about the war day after fucking day, and from the general apathy that seems to prevail in America, which I love, by the way-- too much to sit back and watch it degenerate without screaming bloody murder. So if I seem a little pissed, it's cause I am. All these college kids who support the war and talk tough while some stop-lossed 'whiner' pulls their tour in Iraq can blow me. You all are full of hot air and tough talk, and you've never had to back it up. Josh, if you've served, or are in ROTC, I apologize for insinuating that you are a coward, but if you haven't or aren't planning to-- well, keep up the hard work at Carnegie Mellon, and remember that your country needs you.

11 Other Voices:

D. said...

"All these college kids who support the war and talk tough while some stop-lossed 'whiner' pulls their tour in Iraq can blow me."

Well spoken. Pretty much says it all Brian.

CMU, btw, ain't no community college. You pretty much gotta be very rich, or very very smart, to go there.
Keep posting!
D.

4/19/2006 01:41:43 PM  
Ole Blue The Heretic said...

I often tell my very Republican Brother in law and my Uncle, who support the war, to join the military like I did.

They both look at me like I am nuts.

They both do not know anything about foreign policy and the Middle East except for the "blow them all to hell" concept.

4/19/2006 02:00:42 PM  
nunya said...

Thank you. Thank you for your service and thank you for telling the truth about it.

4/20/2006 12:09:50 AM  
Bryan D. Catherman said...

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4/20/2006 09:04:23 AM  
Bryan D. Catherman said...

(The previous post was self-censored. I changed my mind and decided to open it up... that's what this site is about anyway.)

Let's not forget all those college warriors who put down their books and picked up a rifle. The Reservists and National Guard. John Crawford, author of "The Last True Story I'll Ever Tell" was less than a semester from completion when he deployed.

When I came home and went back to my classes, students (who had never been there and never served and never will) had too much to say. They knew it all. They had a solution for everything. I received a damn good education at the University, but the best school house I ever entered was the school of war!

Nothing teaches more about life then being in a place where others lay it down for their brothers. Nothing teaches foreign policy then being in the trenches when diplomacy fail. Nothing teaches world culture than going their in person and feeling the culture's pain, joy, hardship, and life.

A person can bitch their head off about the political party they don't belong to, immigration, abortion, Bill Clinton or President Bush; but bitch about war, and the Hawks dive down to take you out. Why is honesty about the combat zone so frowned upon? It's no wonder Vets don't like to share their experiences. You open up and they don't get it. Rather than just keeping quiet in the things they don't understand, they have to dig in and jab. It's like a man trying to tell a woman that giving birth is easy, painless, and they shouldn't bitch about it.

4/20/2006 09:12:48 AM  
The Statistics said...

Fuck the kids that didn't serve because they had a dynamite job or a promising future in the local university.

Double fuck'em for bathing in my war experience because they think it is righteous and honorable. Like they have to trump up their inferiority like they would have been there with me.

Triple fuck'em if they want to talk shit because I didn't have a great time and feel like telling people about it.

You will be damn amazed at what an eye opening experience joining the military can be, much less the intensity of fuckin' war.

Kids don't know what the fuck they are getting into and if Josh the Fuckin School Boy thinks he knows about being a soldier and about war he is dead fucking wrong.

You won't know until you are pissing your pants trying to become as flat as you can because bullets are snaping and biting.

You won't know until you see a child with her face half ripped off run from a building you have been filing full of 50cal rounds because you thought you saw a muzzle flash from a window.

You won't know until you are scooping what is left of your friend out of the humvee that was hit by a road side bomb so the mechanics can get it back on the road.

Not until you sign the paper, go through basic and get sent off to war will you fully understand what a stupid fucking choice joining the military really was.

the heretic

4/20/2006 02:25:18 PM  
Lurch said...

Just keep on going on, Brian. You're doing just fine. I can't get too exercised about people like that "Josh J" because they have very limited experiential horizons. It's hard to deal with that sort of attitude, I know, but the best way to twist their tits is to nod at them, and then say in a very patronizing tone, "Tell you what, son. Get back to me in 5 years when you've gotten some lumps."

4/21/2006 07:32:06 AM  
Joe Visionary said...

I can only hope that you never feel your efforts here are fruitless.

NEVER let them think it's OK when it isn't.

4/21/2006 09:32:53 AM  
Elmo said...

Damn "Josh J" you've got a lot to learn about life.

4/21/2006 03:46:40 PM  
ThePoetryMan said...

ole blue heretic,

"They both do not know anything about foreign policy and the Middle East except for the "blow them all to hell" concept."

Which is precisely why they relate to GW so much, eh?

4/24/2006 10:24:19 PM  
ThePoetryMan said...

Smack! I bet Mellon U. had a time finding that guy's head after he read your response! Hooooooo Agggghhhhhhh!

4/27/2006 09:14:12 AM  

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